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Posted by astrid walschot-Stapp on
In B. Andres' " Elegie pour la mort d'un berger" is a passage with a bisbigliando in the right hand while the left hand plays the melody. Are there any tips on how to have a nice, clean, fast one handed bisbigliando ( upwards) without cramping ? I never had to play a bisbigliando with only one hand............Is it possible to make it sound as beautiful as a two handed one?
Thanks!

PS; A one handed bisbigliando downwards is somehow easier for me, while a two handed bisbigliando is easier upwards.......... Does anyone have the same or opposite experience?


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Posted by Elizabeth Volpé Bligh on
Is this with three notes or four? Either way, you won't have time to pull the fingers all the way into the palm, and the thumb won't have time to close. Think of yourself as an athlete, trying to find the most efficient way to improve speed in your racing technique, while staying loose and relaxed. You want to minimize any extra movement or detours and go as straight to your next note as possible. To keep the sound legato, you will not have more than one finger on a string at any given time. The wrist should be out and relaxed, the elbow should be up to support the wrist, but, depending on what register you are in, you may be able to rest your wrist or part of your hand on the soundboard. Flutter your fingers very quietly at first, and gradually build up speed and volume. Hope this helps!
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Posted by saul davis on
I personally wouldn't play it, as it sounds like something that practicing would lend itself to injury. But I would think of it as slow, effortless arpeggios, with oscillation and shoulder movement to prevent any possible cramping while learning.
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Posted by saul davis on
I just have to add, "one-handed bisbigliando" sounds like one of those strange instruments that P.D.Q. Bach comes up with, like "left-handed sewer flute." And for some reason, composers are always stupidly fascinated with the fact that we have bisbigliando, or as more familiarly known, bisbigl. I guess it's one of the few things they ever learn about the harp in orchestration class.
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Posted by James Pinkerton on
I agree with both Saul and Elizabeth. I first would be very careful of this passge. Sounds like, with any sort of tension, it's a set up for tendonitis. I would experiment with various patterns and notes and possibly considering not making a true bisbigliando, but something that is effective, and not so demanding. Kind of strange to be in one of Andres pieces. He writes so well for the instrument and this sounds clumsy to say the least.
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Posted by Elizabeth Volpé Bligh on
It just occurred to me that it might be possible for you to play the melody note along with the first note of the bisbligliando, if it is a single line melody, and close enough to the upper part. I don't have the music, so I don't know if this will work. If it's a four-note bisbigliando, you're out of luck. This technique can be a life-saver in extended passages like this, even if it does not work for every bar. Also, you may have to throw standard placing rules out the window and place in whatever direction that makes it easier and smoother. Basically, check and see if there are any places where you can transfer notes from one hand to the other.
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Posted by Carl Swanson on
The word Bisbigliando fired a circuit in my brain that had been dormant for years and I wanted to share the memory with you all. The person who played the best (two handed) bisbigliando I have ever heard was Aristid Von Wurlitzer, my undergraduate teacher. His bisbigliando was magic. It had no begining and no end. It was even in tone, rhythm, and volumn like I have never heard anyone else do. You couldn't hear any shift from one hand to the other, and you couldn't hear any pulse to it at all. It was a miraculous bisbigliando. I believe I only ever heard him do a 4 finger bisbigliando, not a 3 fingered one.
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Posted by saul davis on
"Gee, Dad, it's a Wurlitzer!"
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Posted by Carl Swanson on
I don't know how that came out like that. His name was Wurtzler, not Wurlitzer.
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Posted by J D on
...I hate to be the one to ask this, but what is a bisbigliando?
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Posted by Carl Swanson on
A bisbigliando is a rapidly repeated pattern of notes that is played by both the left and right hand.  It can be a 3 or 4 note pattern, and usually outlines a chord.  Here's an example: Play a 4 note C major arpeggio from the bottom up with the right hand(C,E,G,C-4,3,2,1) then repeat the exact same notes with the left hand.  Repeat this over and over again(right, left, right, left, etc.) with an absolutely even rhytmic distance between the notes, and an absolutely even volumn so that no single note stands out.  It's played very fast so that it sounds like a kind of tremolo.  The trick is to touch the strings at the moment that they are played and not a nanosecond  sooner, and to place in sequence, i.e., place only one finger at a time ahead of the one playing.  With both hands playing right no top of each other you will muffle the sound by placing too early, or placing all four fingers together.  Hasselman's Follets is an entire piece written on a 3 note bisbigliando pattern.
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Posted by J D on
Oh, OK. Thanks.
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